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  • 1.  Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Aug 21, 2012 11:54 AM

    Now that the RTM release of Windows 8 is available to VL & SA customers, I was wondering when it would be officially supported by Symantec for PGP/WDE.  I figure this info would probably warrant a sticky in the forum.  Thanks.



  • 2.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Aug 22, 2012 11:01 AM

    As an addendum, I did install 10.2.1 MP2 on a Windows 8 Pro RTM 64-bit machine.  Enrollment was fine and encryption started. After the reboot, I was presented with the new blue frowny-face of death for pgpsdk.sys; SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION.

    Now that it's confirmed that the latest version of PGP Desktop does not work with Windows 8 RTM, when can we expect a version that will?



  • 3.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Aug 22, 2012 06:46 PM

    We are anticipating that we will have Windows 8 support officially with our release that is coming out in an upcoming release later this year. Our software works with Windows 8 on 10.2 MP4 and newer with x86 and 10.2.1 with X64. But the restrictions on this is that you are not enabling any new Windows 8 features as well. This includes the UEFI boot support with Windows 8. That is also one of the reasons why we won't be supporting Windows 8 until several months afterwards becuase we need to basically rewrite a bunch of our PGP WDE to work with the UEFI boot on PC's.

    See here for the related article on UEFI boot support for Drive Encyrption on Windows 8.

    http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH194616

    See here to subscribe to the article on Windows 8 and Symantec Encryption Desktop to be notified when support for Windows 8 is available

    http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH199095



  • 4.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Aug 22, 2012 09:28 PM

    Ben,

    I believe what you say is incorrect.  Windows 8 Professional RTM x64 does not work with WDE.  After encryption has begun, on every boot you are presented with a BSOD for SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION w/ pgpsdk.sys.  I've tried this on 3 different systems (ThinkPad X201, ThinkPad X230, and ThinkCentre M91p ultra-small desktop) all with the exact same result.  These are all vanilla installs of Windows 8, join to domain, install/enroll in PGP, encrypt, reboot, perpetual fail.  There is no option during the install of Windows 8 regarding UEFI and the X201 is plain old boring BIOS only, so that has nothing to do with it.

    I am using PGP Desktop 10.2.1 MP2 bound to UN 3.2.1 MP2 - the latest offerings from Symantec.

    When you say Q2 FY13, do you mean Q4 CY12?  Like October-December of this year?  If not, then when?

    This is becoming all to common for Symantec.  New OS versions are released and it takes forever to get working versions of PGP.  Being at a College, we have faculty that need to use/teach the latest software.  We also have a need to secure the College's data and it is so frustrating the lack of support by Symantec for both the Windows and Mac versions of PGP.  Also, UEFI has been around for many years.  Why is it just being looked into now?

    I hate having to go to my CIO and telling him: "Sorry, we can't roll out any Windows 8 laptops or Mountain Lion laptops because PGP still doesn't work."

    I'm not ranting directly at you, but this keeps happening over and over w/ Symantec.  The pause encryption bug I brought to Symantec's attention a year ago was finally fixed in 10.2.1 MP2 - a year after it was reported.  It just doesn't seem like enough resources are devoted to this product.

    Edit: After looking at the tech note you posted, I checked the tech note at that bottom of it: TECH190829.  This is NOT the issue we are having.  All these systems are booting in legacy BIOS mode via MBR disks.  Encryption starts, but then perpetually BSOD's on boot after that.



  • 5.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Aug 23, 2012 01:13 PM

    @d4marist - as with all major OS releases, we anticipate support of these within 60-90 days from official manufacturer release to the public.  Minor releases we try to support within 30-60 days. 

    Our current plans are to provide Win8 support with WDE in the January time frame.  This will not be complete Win8 support across every new feature and function.  Our goal for the January release is WDE and UEFI.  The following releases/MP's will continue to fold in support for the other components of our product offerings and features of Win8.

    The error you mention above we are aware of as this showed in our pre RTM testing.  



  • 6.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Aug 24, 2012 12:56 PM

    @Symc_TomC - any chance of getting a quick MP release that fixes the BSOD/pgpsdk.sys w/ BIOS boot mode shortly, and then waiting for a UEFI release until Jan?  I'm sure fixing compatibility with Windows 8 is much more trivial than adding all the UEFI support too.  It would be great if it worked w/ Win8 (booting in pure BIOS or emulated BIOS mode) in say the next 30 days.

    I can definitely wait until Jan for the UEFI support, but it's too long to wait for basic Win8 support.  



  • 7.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Aug 25, 2012 01:26 PM

    I Agree d4marist, you should get this issue fixed ASAP, I have same error, on Win 8 x64, and bit to long to wait that much for you to get this fixed, and for sure I do not want to wait for a year on you to fix it. Maybe you should hire some better developers that know what they doing. It becomes really frustrating!!

    .



  • 8.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Aug 28, 2012 05:54 PM

    Bump.  Any chance of getting a quick Win8 release (fixes BSOD w/ pgpsdk.sys) and then waiting til Jan for the UEFI support?



  • 9.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Oct 16, 2012 07:19 AM

    for me such delay after win 8 launch is not accepted as well !!

     



  • 10.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Oct 17, 2012 08:38 AM

    Symantec Drive encryption release for Windows 8 is under works.

    Most issues have been fixed already, but as per the Release timeline, official support release won't be provided before End of Q1/Q2 2013.



  • 11.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Oct 22, 2012 05:27 PM

    Windows 8 RTM'd on August 1.  We are nearly 3 months past that already.  Can't you provide a MP release that at least fixes the bluescreen on every boot?

    Now you're saying we have to wait until END of Q1 or Q2?!?!?  This is absurd.



  • 12.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Nov 07, 2012 09:23 AM

    We are trying our level best to provide customers with Stable builds that would solve a huge number of issues, which took up a lot of time.

    We are also packing up a lot of things in Windows 8 support release with extensive QA testing to provide a seamless customer experience.

    Be patient.Achieving Q1 2013 target looks extremely good at my end. :)



  • 13.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Jan 09, 2013 03:25 PM

    I just got notification that the re-branded 10.3 and 3.3 are available.  Does 10.3 provide Windows 8 support?



  • 14.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Jan 09, 2013 05:11 PM

    The 10.3 Release Notes do not indicate Windows 8 support.



  • 15.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Jan 10, 2013 12:53 AM

    No, 10.3/3.3 does not support Windows 8



  • 16.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Jan 10, 2013 09:26 AM

    Any update on when we'll finally get Windows 8 support?  We're now over 5 months post-RTM.

    You get a +1 for finally including 64-bit PGPWDE for WinPE, but I asked for that 3 years ago.  Hopefully we'll get Windows 8 support before Windows 9 is released...



  • 17.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Jan 10, 2013 09:59 AM

    haha.. Thats funny..

    Sorry but probably thats how things really work in real life situations... Our team at Symantec is dedicated to the highest level of quality assurance.. It took a lot of time to get the product into the awsome shape that it is in today..lots of bug fixes, change of roadmap etc etc..at the same time we have been innovating heavily and adding features.. probably somethings had to take priority over the other.. But I believe this is a sign of the amazing progress we are making..

    I'm not very clear on the realese dates, but Windows 8 support is not very far



  • 18.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Feb 06, 2013 04:51 AM
    Hi Theirs been no update since the 10th Jan, we are nearly a month on now, is their a further update? as we have laptops sitting round doing nothing because we cant encrypt or deploy them! Thanks Matthew


  • 19.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Feb 06, 2013 04:08 PM

    190 days since Windows 8 RTM. 

    100-130 days past the anticipated support timeframe. 

    That is neither in "awesome shape", innovative, or showing amazing progress. 

    In another comment, Senior Technical Support Engineer PGP_Ben said:

    We expect to have a fully Windows 8 compatible release with WDE including the new UEFI boot support in Windows 8 come Q2CY2013.

    Assuming an April 1, 2013 release date, that's nearly 250 days after Windows RTM. no



  • 20.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Feb 07, 2013 12:05 AM

    David that is still correct for our release timeline of Q2CY2013.  We are delaying the release to ensure that we get a very well Quality Controlled release. I am sure that you heard about the change in Executive Management within Symantec. One of the things they are changing is the "ship and fix it" mentality. I know that Engineering is hard at work to ensure that when we release Symantec Encryption Desktop 10.3.1 it will be compatible with Windows 8 and support al lthe new UEFi features. This is a major overhaul of our product from where it's at today. Because to become fully Windows 8 compatible we have to change over legacy code to work with new GPT partitions in Windows and support native UEFI boot of the OS.

    Please try and be patient. I have heard from our Product Management teams that most corporations are still delaying deploying Windows 8 company wide until a service pack comes out and it's compatible with all their other vendor solutions.

    Thank you



  • 21.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Feb 07, 2013 02:42 PM

    Ben,

    All you've done is made poor excuses for Symantec's lack of attention to supporting Windows 8 customers with PGP (or the re-branded Symantec Encryption Desktop).  Let's not forget that I started this thread in August.  It is now February and still no official date.  Let's also not forget that Microsoft released several beta/RC versions of Windows 8.

    Your uEFI/GPT comments are irrelevant.  Native uEFI booting from a GPT disk has been available since Windows Vista!  Windows Vista was released in January of 2007.  This isn't some new feature of Windows 8.  You've already had 6 years to support uEFI/GPT booting.

    We have been patient.  We pay you to meet our needs - not to make excuses and give throw away anecdotes like, "I have heard from our Product Management teams that most corporations are still delaying deploying Windows 8 company wide until a service pack comes out and it's compatible with all their other vendor solutions."  We are NOT waiting for service pack.  We are waiting on YOU.  This is the only software we use that STILL doesn't work with Windows 8.

    You need to realize that while many businesses may wait, many don't.  Especially in the education sector.

    Symantec has missed every single date with this.  It's infurating.  It's early Feb and you still won't have a release until Q2?  What?  June 30?  That will most likely be pushed back too.  My comment about getting Windows 8 support before Windows 9 is released isn't funny as vaibhav said.  It's sad.  Sad that Symantec refuses to provide paying customers with exactly what we pay them for.

    When are we getting this?  (Hint: give a date, not a quarter)



  • 22.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Feb 07, 2013 04:16 PM

    I agree with you my friend, they are very fast when they have to charge you for the service witch obviously they are not able to provide. It seams like we have to move to other provider let say check point, been looking their encription software and it seams like very nice and very good quality.



  • 23.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Feb 14, 2013 12:08 PM

     

    Hi all new to the forum (long time first time, work in education) and I would have to agree with d4marist. I cannot stress enough about the wide spread incompatibility issues with this software especially for Mac OS X and now Windows 8.

    I should not have to have a different version of Disk Encryptions Software (PGP WDE) for almost every version of Mac and should be able to have “One ring that rules them all” on the Encryption Server.

    It would be nice to have confidence in the product with the MPKs that come out, but like many people here I am still waiting on simple items that they took out of the 3.0 Encryption Server that should have never been taken away. An example of this would be: being able to see what groups users are in on the user’s page on the Encryption Server. All it takes is one person not to be in the proper A/D group and then you have to methodically go through all the users seeing who is where.

    The Server should be 100% customizable and real-time. I should not have to look at the server WDE disks and guess if a user is really on that particular disk, I should not have to get the real time status by only looking at the users PGP desktop for a 100% reliable data…but l digress. This is what I have come to expect from this company and it is not surprising with Windows 8. 

    Symantec releases their products and rely on us to do the troubleshooting. That being said; is the Windows 8 release going to have an * on the supported OSs just like the Mac OS X (Mountain Lion) has? Meaning that it is not 100% supported and I’ll have to jump through hoops and run scripts to get it to work? Also, will I have to install it has a standalone client install, because if I put it on my Encryption Server it will hose other WDE computers… just like Macs (isn’t this great)?



  • 24.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Mar 11, 2013 02:35 PM

    C'mon, guys.  What's the update?  We have fully built Windows 8 images ready to deploy now.  The ONLY thing holding us back is Symantec Drive Encryption.

    When are we going to get this?  We need it now.



  • 25.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Mar 17, 2013 09:53 AM

    And now we get the silent treatment...  with this and the altiris debacle, Symanrec are fast becoming a joke. We are actively investigating alternatives because of your failure to deliver.



  • 26.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Mar 21, 2013 09:04 AM

    According to sven_frank in a thread about Mountain Lion 10.8.3 support (http://www.symantec.com/connect/forums/when-will-symantec-encryption-desktop-support-mac-os-x-1083), he says:

     

    10.3.1 is really around the Corner so 30 days are really in the reach for official support.

    Looks like ±Beginning of April right now

    My question is - will you finally support Windows 8 in 10.3.1?  Windows 8 was RTM on August 1, 2012.  On April 1, you will have had 8 months with the final release.  The "support" being provided is deplorable.  You are affecting our core business.



  • 27.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Mar 29, 2013 12:28 AM
    Just got a new Dell M6700 Portable Workstation. Running Windows Server 2012 on it. Our IT installed Symantec PGP on it. It was booting every couple of times and sometimes blowing up with "SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION" on the PGPSYS driver. Searched the internet and found this discussion. Really - they have been promising this since last August? Windows 8 and Windows Server 2012 were RTM last year and they still have not fixed this? I've gotten authorization from our Chief Security Officer to blow this poorly supported product away and use Bitlocker - which everyone knows works. Why would anyone put up with such horrible lack of responsibility/support from a major vendor?! Any updates on this? Looks like Symantec went quiet - most likely from the horrible embarrassment of their letdown.


  • 28.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Mar 29, 2013 01:39 PM

    By the way. Is anyone aware of a modern product that supports Windows 8 and Windows Server 2012 for standards and government approved encryption and remote kill? I know bitlocker provides the encryption but not sure about remote kill.



  • 29.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Apr 03, 2013 09:44 AM

    Any product that utilises the intel anti theft chips will be able to do what you suggest.

    Look on the intel's website and it'll be able to point you to the direction of products that utilise the chip (Symantec's PGP is included in that list) 

    But be aware, that is an extra charge that you go direct with intel for.

    I too am disappointed by the extremely slow support for 2012 and Windows 8 - we're having to turn customers away from PGP and move them to other products, we have no choice.  I also have no confidence in the Mac product at the moment also, we've had nothing but problems with it.

     



  • 30.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Apr 12, 2013 02:04 AM

    I am sure that you have all heard and read that Symantec is undergoing major restructuring inside the company right now.  This means lots of reorganization with uppper management. This has caused some delay in our releases unfortunately. It is my hope, that Symantec Encryption Desktop 10.3.1 will have Windows 8 support and will be available very soon (less than 30 days is my understanding).  However, we have had some issues with EFI boot support natively on Windows 8 and this is subsequently causing a possible slip of WDE support on Windows 8 with this upcoming release. The details are still being worked out, anyone who is interested could send me an email on this thread in the meantime I suppose.

    I'm terribly sorry about all this. Thankfully, or unfortunately, not sure which yet, we don't have that many customers on Windows 8 platform just yet. Personally, as someone who has worked in the tech industry for years, I find Windows 8 fairly annoying unless you have a tablet with a touchscreen. Which is a whole other bag of worms in regards to virtual keyboard support with preboot authentication which most likely will be supported with an upcoming release possibly later this year.



  • 31.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Apr 15, 2013 08:02 PM

    Quite honestly, it doesn't look very promising for a Windows 8 version of PGP. Disappoiting to say the least. I for one adopted AxCrypt as a replacement as I needed something and Symantec dropped the ball. I paid for PGP which doesn't work with Windows 8 so I wonder if I willl return to the PGP fold. Been with it for many years, way before the Symantec acquisition. Looks like this might be the end. Pity (sigh)



  • 32.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Apr 24, 2013 12:57 PM

    What's the latest?  As I said back in August, we need a working version of PGP for Windows 8.  We have been waiting extemely patiently.  You already have our maintenance $$$.

    We have all software working on Win 8 except PGP.  Due to our security policy, we can't roll out any laptops with Windows 8 until you guys provide us with what we've already paid for.  We only use PGP for WDE, so that's all we care about at this point.

    I need to know when Windows 8 will be supported by WDE.



  • 33.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Apr 30, 2013 03:14 AM

    We cannot give official release dates. I'm sorry for that. The best thing that i can offer you right now is to subscribe to our Windows 8 feature request KB which will notify you when we have the Windows 8 compatible version  of Symantec Encryption Desktop (formerly PGP Desktop) available to the public.

    See here:

    http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH199095

     



  • 34.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Jun 07, 2013 06:35 PM

    Wow, symantec are rapidly turning into a joke.

    We've waiting since August, and now you're saying that Windows 8 support is only a "hope" for 10.3.1? Absolutely ridiculous, and your excuse is because of uefi? Well newsflash, your target audience doesn't care about uefi. As existing PGP users, we obviously do not need uefi since your current products do not support it.

    Just release a version of WDE that can successfully encrypt hard drives, as 10.2 and 10.3 do with Windows 7. That's all I need, nothing more and nothing less.

    Ahh heck, why am I wasting my breath. Symantec clearly have no clue. Time to recommend to management that they switch to an alternative product I think.



  • 35.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Jun 07, 2013 08:33 PM

    Well Ryster, I gave up a while back and dumped PGP (pity). I now use "AxCrypt" which does the job on my Win 8 Pro PCs.  I too was frustrated by Symantec's answer regarding PGP support in Win 8. 



  • 36.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Jun 24, 2013 12:24 PM

    Regarding messaging/Outlook 2013 support on Windows 8 with Symantec Encryption Desktop (previously PGP Desktop) the following information from our ;atest (MP2) release notes may be of use:

    Symantec Encryption Desktop 10.3 MP2 for Windows supports the use of the Symantec™ Desktop Email Encryption, Powered by PGP Technology component for Microsoft Outlook 2013 (32-bit) with Windows 8 and Exchange 2010.

    Windows 8 Drive Encryption is still in progress and looking good for a Q3CY2013 release.



  • 37.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Jul 08, 2013 09:00 AM

    So, Q3 is now upon us, so please could you post the URL for us all so that we can deploy Windows 8 over the summer?wink

    Or should we wait until August, when this thread will be 12 months old, and Windows 8 even older?

    The only product vendor holding up Windows 8 deployment for me is Symantec. The likes of Novell have managed it (ah, but they do Enterprise Computing you might say...), and the only thing holding things back on Windows 8 deployment is the lack of WDE. Perhaps I should just move to a FDE covered by Novell's ZenWorks site licence rather than paying for a year of non-existent upgrades.

    Apologies for the sarcastic tone, but the Product Managers need to know that their enterprise customers will be leaving soon if you can't meet our needs at a reasonable speed. Either that, or perhaps you should just stay with products designed for the domestic market, where security is perceived as a lower priority.

    The original "Feature request" for Windows 8 at http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH194616 hasn't been updated for almost 6 months, and the one at http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH199095 gives no hope for the future either.

    broken heart

     

     



  • 38.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Jul 11, 2013 12:12 PM

    Any update, Symantec?  The way you've handled this is shameful.  Still cashing our maintenance checks?

    We're looking at Bitlocker/MBAM 2.0 for Windows and Casper/FileVault 2 for Macs.  Symantec is a has-been company.  They've killed PGP and they're doing the same with Ghost (you still can't clone a bootable GPT disk).  They don't care about their paying customers needs.  If you review this thread, it's been excuse after excuse from technical lies (UEFI/GPT booting is new to Windows 8), to support lies (60-90 days support for a major release), to internal issues (management reorg), to useless opinions (Windows 8 is fairly annoying...).

    Q1 looks good, no...Q2 looks good, no...Q3 looks good.  No.  Symantec looks bad.

    I did say back in January, "Hopefully we'll get Windows 8 support before Windows 9 is released...", which vaibhav_jain1 from Symantec thought was funny.  I didn't know the next release would be 8.1 at the time, but in fact, vaibhav_jain1, it's not funny at all.  It's pathetic.



  • 39.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Jul 11, 2013 02:15 PM

    I apologise for any rudeness I might have shown or for the misformation. I should have been more careful before making any such such statements.

    As you must know that Symantec is undergoing a major restructuring process and under Steve Benett, our goal is to ship our products with the utmost quality that instantly delight our customers.

    Things had been a little shaky but everything has settled down very nicely.I am only an engineer, things are beyond my control and I can only speculate. 

    Rest assured, PGP is pretty much alive and kicking. We are commited to shipping a great product and you would not be disappointed in us again.

    Thanks for all the patience.



  • 40.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Jul 16, 2013 08:28 AM

    Disappointing, we had been waiting since October '12.



  • 41.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Aug 26, 2013 02:46 PM

    This is crazy, over a year and no release for Windows 8.  Not only that but UEFI has been out longer then a year and yet it is not supported.

    I finally convinced my CISO to give me an exception on Windows 8 devices to roll them out with bitlocker.  I hate to say it but I hope Symantec continues to drag their feet because after using bitlocker with TPM I don't think I want to go back to the dreaded grey startup screen.  If they continue on this path I doubt we will continue paying for an out of date product.



  • 42.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Aug 30, 2013 11:11 AM

    I am a BISO and Regional IT Manager for my company and have had meeting after meeting regarding this issue and I am going to have to recommend using our proposed SC 2012 project to manage bitocker on all of our devices.  I see no other alternative as there has been no hope given for Win 8 and PGP WDE. 

    Oh for that comment no one really wants it, we are a 22+ Billion dollar company that have been testing it for over 6 months.  I want to be able to start utilizing 8 Pro tablets and Windows 8 Ent laptops/desktops connecting to Server 2012 infrastructure, yet I am limited in my environment by a third party vendor.  These types of issues make it easy to convince a forward thinking and forward leaning company Executive to look elsewhere.  I mean who really wants to be limited by a suppossed partner in their business?  It is hard to sell an exec the excuse of; "We could move forward only if this other vendor would allow us to" .  We are a solutions company and we will start looking for a solution.  Is there one here? Hell I will even test your current build myself if you like. 

     



  • 43.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Aug 31, 2013 08:11 AM

    well symantec has become huge joke, even some goverment companies are moving away from symantec,

    I know we do. and don't bother guys there is no current build.



  • 44.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Aug 31, 2013 02:59 PM

    I have given up a while back and so has our company. They are no longer using Symantec products and PGP has been purged from service.

    Now I understand that corporate reorganizations are often challenging, but the lack of support for PGP with Windows 8 and the mixed messages makes me wonder if they just don't want PGP to simply go away. In any event, I have passed my window of patience and so has our company.



  • 45.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Sep 09, 2013 03:25 PM

    I just happened accross this thread and thought that I would note that if you restart a Windows 8 64-bit computer, including the aforementioned Lenovo X201 Tablet, that you must wait for the encryption to finish the boot drive before the PGPsdk.sys frowny-face message will go away.

    To do that, you will likely need something like a login banner to pause the PC before automatically trying to get into the OS.  A logon banner does just that.

    To accomplish that, boot the PC, enter your Symantec Encrytion password (AD password) and let the PC go to the login banner, and wait....and wait.  If you go past, the PC will crash and at the drive encryption login, check the percent complete.  You will notice that it increases between crashing.

    Just let it sit at the login banner until you notice the drive lights stop, then continue and you will be past this.

     

    This is just my experience using 10.3 (8741) and PGP SDK (4.2.1).



  • 46.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Sep 10, 2013 06:04 AM

    2 months have now passed since I last made an enquiry. So, any news? I don't mind being told - we'll release it 1 months after Windows 8.1 - I can cope and plan (and tell users to use something else if needs be). Even if you said "only on Intel chips" it would be something to report to users and their managers.

    However the silence is really deafening, and does not place you an anyone's magic quadrant. If you keep your customers informed, they tend to be happier (or is it less unhappy?).

     

     



  • 47.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Sep 18, 2013 02:34 AM

    Symantec Encryption Desktop release 10.3.1 is now GA'd !! and it adds support for Windows 8 x64 and x86 BIOS and x64 UEFI systems.

    Happy Testing!

     



  • 48.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Sep 18, 2013 03:54 AM

    Thank-you. It would have been much better if we had been kept informed of progress - even if it appears negative in outlook. I will take a look.

     



  • 49.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Sep 18, 2013 08:03 AM

    While it's good that it's finally out, the communication (or lack thereof) from Symantec has been shockingly bad and a clear demonstration of disrespect for their customers.

    In it's simplest form, this has been a case of....   silence... silence... silence... excuse... silence... silence... silence.... suprise! its out.

    Not good.

     

    This does beg the question though.... presumably you've tested this new release on the 8.1 version of Windows 8 that is now available for organisations on some MS license agreements?



  • 50.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Sep 18, 2013 10:57 AM

    Nevermind my previous question.

     

    My other question is, does this new version work with Win 8.1 as well?



  • 51.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Sep 18, 2013 04:17 PM

    PGP Desktop 10.3.1 for Windows 8 Pro article: http://www.symantec.com/docs/AL1473

    I don't know if is compatible with Windows 8.1, but I think so, because the plataform and core are the same.

     



  • 52.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Sep 19, 2013 01:46 AM

    Windows 8.1 is not officially supported(as it has not been released yet), but it sure seems to work fine with SED 10.3.1. No issues so far. 

     



  • 53.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Sep 19, 2013 04:14 AM

    Not exactly true Vaibhav, Windows 8.1 has been released to Technet, MSDN and many businesses with Microsoft licensing agreements. The only demographic that does not have 8.1 yet are consumers/retail. Not many consumers at retail using PGP/SED.



  • 54.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Sep 19, 2013 05:13 AM

    Correct.. What I meant was that they haven't been GA'd yet.

    Builds available to Manufacturers and on MSDN are working and RTM Build(And Microsoft has said that they might make changes even after RTM). Windows 8.1 Enterprise RTM was released just Yesterday 18/9. Windows 8.1 Consumer editions are available too, preview, RTM and working builds.

    And when I say that it sure seems to be working fine means that I have tested SDE with these available builds and it seems to work fine on them.

    I doubt if any organization would claim support for RTM or working builds.Hope it clears the confusion.

    Again this is just me reaching out to cosumers of the product I work on. Dont quote me on this. :)



  • 55.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Sep 19, 2013 05:20 AM

    Fair enough, thanks for the response.



  • 56.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Sep 19, 2013 11:17 AM

    Looks pretty good so far. No real issues. I did notice in the notes about Surface Pro and having to hold the volume button down when powering on to activate the keyboard. That is kind of a pain to show users as they will surely not remember this. I wonder if this will change at some point? When testing Bit Locker while waiting for this update, it saw the KB just fine.

     

    I also had to disable secure boot on the Surface Pro to even get the login screen. Not that big of a deal.



  • 57.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Sep 19, 2013 12:01 PM

    Thanks landrmat for the update.

    Surface Pro issue is because of firmware manufacturers implemeting Fast/quick boot/XHCI driver restrictions.

    Similar issues might be seen on few other machines too and can be avoided by disabling these options in the firmware if available. We are trying to resolve this for all the major firmware manufacturers.

    You had to disable Secureboot to get the PGP Bootguard is a shocker to me.

    Can you please provide more info on this? 



  • 58.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Sep 19, 2013 12:12 PM

    Yes. Secure boot was already on by default. I installed and encrypted the drive. upon restart I got Secure Boot Violation. Invalid signature detected. Check secure boot policy in setup.

     

    I went into the bios, turn off Secure Boot and saved. It then boots to the Bootguard screen and lets me log in fine.

     

    Is there some other step or process im missing for me not having to disable secure boot?



  • 59.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Sep 20, 2013 12:36 AM

    I need help... I have Endpoint.  When I try to install it on my Windows 8 system, I get a message that there is a compatibility issue.  When I choose the option to "get help online", a message comes up that says there is no help online.  What can I do to fix this???



  • 60.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Sep 20, 2013 10:40 AM

    The only thing you can do is wait.  Like the rest of us.  Everyone is waiting for the Windows 8 compatible version of this product with baited breath. 



  • 61.  RE: Windows 8 RTM and PGP Desktop/WDE

    Posted Sep 20, 2013 12:48 PM

    I hope you guys are taking about Syantec Encryption Desktop. Its already out-10.3.1!