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Old GUP became a GUP again

  • 1.  Old GUP became a GUP again

    Posted Sep 20, 2010 08:13 AM

    I'm not sure how this is possible but a machine that used to act as a GUP just became a GUP again! What's more confusing is that specific policy doesn't exist anymore so I don't know what to do.

    Has anyone seen this happen before?



  • 2.  RE: Old GUP became a GUP again

    Posted Sep 20, 2010 10:06 AM

    You can reassign an new policy liveupdate with the valid GUP Settings in this client group and update policy on the client by security.

    What is your method for define the GUP ? With IP or DNS name ? It's possible of you have an DNS error if you use the second method, using nslookup for know this.

     



  • 3.  RE: Old GUP became a GUP again
    Best Answer

    Posted Sep 20, 2010 10:31 AM

    Move the computer/server to a new group, and see if the if the LiveUpdate policy updates.

     

    You might also take a look at this article:

    http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH104539&locale=en_US

    You can take a look at the Windows registery and see what's going on there.

    Mike



  • 4.  RE: Old GUP became a GUP again

    Posted Sep 20, 2010 10:33 AM

    I currently define the GUP by DNS name. Maybe defining by IP would be more reliable?



  • 5.  RE: Old GUP became a GUP again

    Posted Sep 20, 2010 11:08 AM

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  • 6.  RE: Old GUP became a GUP again

    Broadcom Employee
    Posted Sep 20, 2010 11:30 AM

    check the globallist.xml which can be found at "Program files\symantec\symantec endpointprotection manager\data\outbox\GUP", if this IP exits it will be acting as GUP.



  • 7.  RE: Old GUP became a GUP again

    Posted Sep 20, 2010 12:39 PM

    Hello Brian,

    Are your some clients did not take latest update policy and try to download definitions still old gup? therefore machine think hisself GUP for another machine want to try download definitions from it?

    Best Regards.


    Fatih



  • 8.  RE: Old GUP became a GUP again

    Posted Sep 20, 2010 12:44 PM

    I think it's better to use IP.

    You evacuate a possible problem on your DNS.

    I think it's the first step for troubleshooting....and that's update the policy on your SEPM and Client. wink



  • 9.  RE: Old GUP became a GUP again

    Posted Sep 20, 2010 12:50 PM

    I do not have the GUP folder in the path specified above. Nor can I find the globallist.xml file

    However the GUP content distro monitor tells me my GUPs are there, althoug some will not update



  • 10.  RE: Old GUP became a GUP again

    Posted Sep 20, 2010 12:53 PM

    Yes, some clients still have the old policy and are trying to contact the old GUP so they are not updating.



  • 11.  RE: Old GUP became a GUP again

    Posted Sep 20, 2010 12:54 PM

    I have set my GUPs to use IP now instead of DNS name



  • 12.  RE: Old GUP became a GUP again

    Posted Sep 20, 2010 12:55 PM

    I'm checking with our network admin to see if I can move in AD, just to make sure I don't cause any problems wink



  • 13.  RE: Old GUP became a GUP again

    Posted Sep 20, 2010 12:58 PM

    Hey Brian,

     

    The folder that you are looking for is:

    Symantec Endpoint Protection Manager\data\outbox\agent\gup\globallist.xml

     

    This should list the GUPs that are in use.

     

    Mike



  • 14.  RE: Old GUP became a GUP again

    Posted Sep 20, 2010 01:00 PM

    Have you tried this:

    Create a new group and either use the current shared liveupdate policy or create a new liveupdate policy and move the clients that are not updating into that group. To see if the policy updates?

     

    Mike



  • 15.  RE: Old GUP became a GUP again

    Posted Sep 20, 2010 01:33 PM

    Hey Mike,

    The folder doesn't exist

    I tried a search as well, on all 3 of my SEPMs but with no luck. I'm assuming this an important file bascially telling SEPM what GUPs are what so it has to be there somewhere?Or else the GUPs wouldn't function at all ??



  • 16.  RE: Old GUP became a GUP again

    Posted Sep 20, 2010 01:46 PM

    That's strange. Maybe use the GUP content distribution monitor and see if the GUP is listed.

    Do you see an agent directory off of the outbox folder?

     

    Mike



  • 17.  RE: Old GUP became a GUP again

    Posted Sep 20, 2010 02:02 PM

    I'm sure the GUP information is in the database. Maybe you can query the IP or hostname of the GUP in question and see what you come up with. I'm assing you are running SQL with three SEPMs.

     

    Mike



  • 18.  RE: Old GUP became a GUP again

    Posted Sep 20, 2010 02:05 PM

    Found it Was located in:

    C:\Program Files (x86)\Symantec\Symantec Endpoint Protection Manager\data\outbox\agent\gup\

    I do see all my GUPs in there and the old GUP is still showing up in there. What's also odd is that a 192.168.x.x address is showing in there. This happens to be the virtual NIC on this machine and no where in SEPM was this IP ever specified. So some weird stuff happening.

    I did move the PC in AD to another group, and according to the logs it applied a new policy and stopped being a GUP. I just moved the PC back and now waiting on AD replication to see what happens once it goes back to its correct group. Some I'm waiting to see what happens.

    Also, I'm guessing I should just edit this list and remove the two IP addresses?



  • 19.  RE: Old GUP became a GUP again

    Posted Sep 20, 2010 02:10 PM

    I don't think you can edit the globalist.xml file. It's protected to my knowledge. Could be wrong though.

    Mike



  • 20.  RE: Old GUP became a GUP again

    Posted Sep 20, 2010 02:22 PM

    Yes, running SQL.

    Most aggravating...the PC was moved back and immediately became a GUP again, picking up the old policy, which doesn't even exist...lmao....and the weird thing is it actually applied the correct policy and 4 seconds later it applied the old one per the logs anyways....maybe a call to support is needed.



  • 21.  RE: Old GUP became a GUP again

    Posted Sep 20, 2010 02:46 PM

    Just thinking outside of the box. Maybe there is a problem with the OU. I hadnt thought that you had AD intergration. Maybe recreate the OU and see if that helps. But, yeah maybe calling support might help.

    Mike



  • 22.  RE: Old GUP became a GUP again

    Posted Sep 20, 2010 07:01 PM

    Thanks Mike, moving to a new AD group solved the issue. As it stopped being a GUP and picked up a new policy.